https://datadrivenanalytics.com.au/2019/09/01/e3-andrew-swindell-information-architecture-and-the-data-ecosystems-in-energy-companies/
Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4pFXzu8SsXvfTY924LDKb2
Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e3-andrew-swindell-information-architecture-data-ecosystems/id1462658527?i=1000448266985
Google: